[whatwg] List Headers

[Ian Hickson]

On Wed, 4 Feb 2009, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
> > 
> > You can do this in HTML5, using <figure> and <legend>:
> > 
> >    <figure>
> >     <legend>A header for the list</legend>
> >     <ul>
> >      <li>List item</li>
> >      <li>List item</li>
> >      <li>List item</li>
> >     </ul>
> >    </figure>
> 
> Since figure is a sectioning root, a heading element could also be used 
> here and it wouldn't affect the outline.  Please add an example of this 
> use case to the spec.

I considered this, but frankly <ol>, <ul>, and <figure> already have a 
whole bunch of examples, and it turns out <li> already has an example of a 
list in a <figure> element.


On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Markus Ernst wrote:
> 
> A different use case in the same problem field: Often you have lists 
> that are actually part of a paragraph, but cannot be correctly 
> associated with the paragraph:
> 
> <p>Text before ...</p>
> <p>There are lots of fruits available, e.g.:</p>
> <ul>
>   <li>Apples</li>
>   <li>Pears</li>
> </ul>
> <p>More Text...</p>
> 
> More appropriate markup for this could be achieved with the LH 
> suggestion:
> 
> <p>Text before ...</p>
> <ul>
>   <lh>There are lots of fruits available, e.g.:</lh>
>   <li>Apples</li>
>   <li>Pears</li>
> </ul>
> <p>More Text...</p>
> 
> Anyway I would consider it even more appropriate to allow the list 
> inside a paragraph:
> 
> <p>Text before ...</p>
> <p>There are lots of fruits available, e.g.:
>   <ul>
>     <li>Apples</li>
>     <li>Pears</li>
>   </ul>
> </p>
> <p>More Text...</p>
> 
> But I admit I have no idea what other problems this could cause.

We had this in the spec originally, but we dropped it due to a variety of 
issues (it made life harder for editors, it didn't work in text/html even 
when it looked like it did, people got confused...).

-- 
Ian Hickson               U+1047E                )\._.,--....,'``.    fL
http://ln.hixie.ch/       U+263A                /,   _.. \   _\  ;`._ ,.
Things that are impossible just take longer.   `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'