[whatwg] Captions, Subtitles and the Video Element

Tab Atkins Jr. jackalmage at gmail.com
Fri Jul 17 06:04:31 PDT 2009

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:15 AM, Ian Hickson<ian at hixie.ch> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2009, Jeff Walden wrote:
>> >
>> > (For the few authors who really want to go crazy, they can already
>> > overlap HTML onto their<video> and do whatever crazy stuff they want
>> > to do.)
>> By way of a use case for at least color and positioning, there's a
>> certain part of the third (?) Austin Powers movie wherein the color and
>> position of foreign-language subtitles plays an important part in the
>> artistic merits (lack thereof, arguably) of the scene.  How would you
>> suggest a movie-viewing site use <video> to display these?  It seems
>> unreasonable to say that the site must include special-case handling for
>> this particular movie clip's subtitles; it's more likely they would be
>> mangled in some manner and the semantic content (lack thereof) would be
>> lost.
>> By the way, I have no idea how foreign-language translations of the
>> movie handle this scene.  It's possible they simply subtitle the
>> subtitles and avoid the more complicated problems this scene arguably
>> presents.
> I think this particular case can be a victim of the 80% rule.

I don't remember the exact scene you're referring to, but it's also
possible that those subtitles are then an integral part of the
content, and should properly be baked into the movie.


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