[whatwg] <time>

Bruce Lawson brucel at opera.com
Thu Mar 12 04:59:37 PDT 2009

On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:05:38 +0530, Lachlan Hunt  
<lachlan.hunt at lachy.id.au> wrote:

> I think the design principles that are applicable here include Solve  
> Real Problems [2],

Real problems to be solved:

1) microformats have accessibility problems with <abbr>; time element  
solves that - but if the only "valid" use is to mark up future events (as  
Henri suggests), then pages become "invalid" as they age. (Much like me,  

2) microformats are already used "in the wild" to mark up past events.  
sometimes ancient and sometimes without DDMMYYYY precision. People who  
wish to do that won't be able to use <time>, so it perpetuates the  
accessibility problems it wishes to solve and fragments the way dates are  
marked up on the Web; some will use time, some will use microformats

Therefore, extending the range of dates that can be marked up with <time>  
promotes accessibility, and caters for an existing requirement to mark up  
dates. Why do people want to mark up dates? I don't know. I don't know  
what people will use datagrid for, but I'm sure they will - and I know  
there are no clients out there that can use datagrid but that's not a  
reason to consign it to the bin in a kind of chicken-and-egg reductionism.

I know that we don't want to bloat the language with new elements for  
every conceivable wish, but we're not talking about a new element, we're  
talking about further extending the usefulness of one.

What advantage is there for authors and consumers by *not* extending the  
range of dates that can be described with <time> ?


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