[whatwg] <textarea placeholder="">

Ian Hickson ian at hixie.ch
Sun Mar 29 18:21:23 PDT 2009

On Tue, 2 Dec 2008, Ojan Vafai wrote:
> I don't follow. What's the difficulty with supporting placeholder for 
> contentEditable?

Unlike form controls, contentEditable content is rendered using CSS rules, 
so a placeholder would have to somehow fit into the CSS model. We'd need a 
way to distinguish a contentEditable section that has user input vs one 
that is empty, for example. In general I think it's better for us to just 
leave this up to the user agent.

> The point is that you want it to correspond to focus state, so generated 
> content doesn't really help you much there.

CSS has :focus; does that not help?

> > For <textarea>, a placeholder value seems odd. Do you have examples of 
> > people doing that?
> I don't have examples other than Thomas's, however, a quick google 
> search<http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLD_enUS289US301&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=textarea+with+placeholder+text>does 
> point to a lot of tutorial sites for adding placeholder text to 
> textareas. I don't quite see what's odd about it though. It's just 
> another case where you want to communicate what the user should put into 
> an text-entry area and it has all the same complexity to the web 
> developer that a text input has.

Fair enough. Added.

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