[whatwg] framesets

Jonas Sicking jonas at sicking.cc
Fri Oct 9 12:52:02 PDT 2009


On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Aryeh Gregor <Simetrical+w3c at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky at mit.edu> wrote:
>> I don't see how they wouldn't.  Everything you can accomplish with
>> <frameset> and <frame> you can do with <iframe> plus gobs of javascript to
>> make the drag-resizing work (probably badly, unlike the UA-provided resizing
>> for <frameset>), no?  Oh, and more hacks to get the initial sizing right and
>> such, of course...
>
> Ah, I didn't understand how navigation in iframes works.  So why *are*
> frames banned, if you can easily replace them with iframes and get the
> exact same lousy behavior?  Because iframes also have less evil uses,
> and frames don't, I guess?

The big difference is that <iframe>s can be used in good ways,
framesets essentially can't.

Another reason do deprecate <frameset> but not <iframe> is that we
don't need *two* ways to make poorly behaving pages.

/ Jonas


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