[whatwg] framesets
Peter Brawley
pb at artfulsoftware.com
Thu Oct 8 16:52:56 PDT 2009
According to http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-html5-diff-20090825/, "The
following elements are not in HTML 5 because their usage affected
usability and accessibility for the end user in a negative way:
* frame
* frameset
* noframes"
As Andrew Fedoniouk said on this list in 2007
(http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2007-March/010186.html),
"There are use cases when frames are good. As an example: online (and
offline) help systems ... In such cases they provide level of usability
higher than any other method of presenting content of such type."
I agree wholeheartedly, esp. when the topic list is long (thousands or
millions of items) and itself editable, and the required interface is
for flexible, independent scrolling of freely choosable bits of the
topic tree in the left frame without affecting anything in the right
detail frame. As Andrew said, frames are the only good way to do this.
New standards ought not to remove required functionalities, ought not to
break perfectly good & legal working code, and ought not to impose
Hobson's choice of keeping functionality vs remaining
standards-compliant. How do we get the unwise decision to remove
framesets revisited?
Peter Brawley
http://www.artfulsoftware.com
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