[whatwg] Web Storage: apparent contradiction in spec
Jens Alfke
snej at google.com
Wed Sep 2 11:08:43 PDT 2009
On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Peter Kasting wrote:
> If you combine that statement with section 6.1's "User agents should
> present the persistent storage feature to the user in a way that
> does not distinguish them from HTTP session cookies", then the
> result is that, when the user requests to delete cookies from a
> site, the UA will also delete that site's local storage. That is
> exactly the behavior I am concerned about.
>
> That's not true. You're misinterpreting a statement about the
> granularity of control users should have as one about what
> terminology a UA should use.
The [lack of] granularity of control actually is a serious concern,
whatever the terminology.
> The spec already recommends a bunch of things about what users
> should be shown w.r.t. Local Storage, such as how much space a site
> is using, so it's clear that a UA that wants to comply with this
> "should" is going to need to construct UI that doesn't just use the
> word "cookies" everywhere but actually presents the data as "here's
> your locally stored data for this site" with local storage content
> enumerated. Users won't be given a prompt that says "clear cookies"
> that, confusingly, clears more than cookies; they'll be given a
> prompt like "clear all locally stored data".
The command will have to say something about cookies or it'll confuse
anyone but an HTML5 expert. It'd have to be more like "Clear cookies
and other locally stored data".
The fundamental problem here is that some uses of local storage are
nothing at all like cookies, for the same reason that ~/Documents is
not the same as ~/Library/Caches. In the example I gave, the user
needs to delete cookies for a site, but absolutely should not delete
local storage. For the spec to tell browser developers to present the
two as being the same thing makes no sense here.
—Jens
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