[whatwg] meta="encrypt" tag is needed

Ashley Sheridan ash at ashleysheridan.co.uk
Fri May 7 13:43:20 PDT 2010

On Fri, 2010-05-07 at 16:40 -0400, Aryeh Gregor wrote:

> On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Juuso Hukkanen <juuso_html5 at tele3d.net> wrote:
> >> 1) Man-in-the-middle problem; which doesn't exists because
> >>        a) those are just academic mind games
> >
> > You don't get to talk about security anymore.
> I don't think "academic" is an *entirely* unfair characterization of
> MITM on the web, actually.  MITM is hard enough to pull off on the
> open web that unless you're a bank or PayPal or something, it's
> unlikely anyone would bother.  In practice, most web developers don't
> have to worry about MITM.  By contrast, something like XSS or SQL
> injection is often so easy to exploit when it exists that any site is
> at risk, from botnet operators targeting their outdated software or
> from script kiddies feeling bored or spiteful.
> In fact, do you know of *any* examples of MITM attacks being
> successfully used against a public website?  It's not that I doubt
> that it's happened, but I don't actually know of any specific cases.
> In principle, you should be able to harvest lots of passwords by
> dropping some free wireless routers in strategic locations.
> (There's still an entirely different fatal problem with what you
> quoted, though: if you aren't worried about MITM, then encryption is
> pointless to begin with.  I don't dispute your conclusion.  :) )


Maybe not exactly what you had in mind, but it is a man-in-the-middle in
a sort of sense.


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