[whatwg] Question: rel="help"
tantek at cs.stanford.edu
Thu Sep 29 11:52:09 PDT 2011
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:12, Jukka K. Korpela <jkorpela at cs.tut.fi> wrote:
> 29.9.2011 20:50, Tantek Çelik wrote:
>> intended for human consumption is a really bad idea for all the usual
>> (#a11y, mobile, search etc.)
That's a reasonable theory. Do you have URLs to any real world examples?
> But the original question did not imply, as far as I can see, any
> implies that the text will be available to many people graphic browsers
> (though perhaps just by accident) and to many people using speech-based
>> Consider adjusting your content design to incorporate the help text
>> (perhaps with either the respective element's "title" attribute or with
>> a nearby/adjacent element)
> I think that idea was implied in the question:
>>>> Question, would an element with rel="help" and a title="Help text"
Realizing that this example markup was ambiguous - that is:
Does the string "Help text" represent a hypothetical placeholder on a
span or div etc.?
Or is that markup part of a hyperlink that links to a separate help
<a rel="help" title="Help text" href="help.html">(?)</a>
> I stll think it's best, for all users, to give instructions in normal text
> before the fields to be filled out.
> But there are situations where you
> expect 80% of people do well without any instructions.
Again, seems like a reasonable theory.
Do you have URLs to real world examples thereof?
> I'm not sure of what
> we are expected to do, as authors, in order to give instructions that might
> be needed by 20% of users but would mostly be a distraction for the
Theoretical problems are harder to provide specific answers for, but
this might work:
Try the <details> and <summary> elements.
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