[whatwg] <iframe srcdoc> definition not compatible with existing user-agent user interfaces
ian at hixie.ch
Sun Apr 7 18:52:13 PDT 2013
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
> The way <iframe srcdoc> is defined, the document URI does not in any way
> encode the document contents.
This is the same as HTTP URLs where the server returns different content
each time, URLs of Documents that have been document.write()n or otherwise
modified dynamically, URLs of Documents that have been generated by
POSTs or that have no-cache headers after the network has been lost, etc.
> Unfortunately, that breaks user-agent and extension features like "open
> frame in new window", "show only this frame", "open frame in new tab",
No, those features are broken because they're poorly implemented, IMHO.
Nothing requires those features to be equivalent to window.open(location),
which is more or less how they are implemented today. Such an
implementation would fail with all the cases I listed above, just like
"View Source" used to fail for those cases in many browsers back when it
was implemented more or less as window.open("view-source:"+location).
"Show only this frame" can be implemented by "just" adjusting the
presentation so that the selected frame fills the top-level viewport; this
will also ensure that the page itself can't detect the situation (or to
put it another way, to ensure that pages that don't check for this, which
is basically all of them, keep working as if the subframe was still a
subframe). This is obviously non-trivial, requiring such things as
handling session history navigation when the user then navigates the frame
as if it was a top-level navigation rather than navigating the promoted
subframe, and handling going back to the promoted subframe or to the state
before it was promoted (a presentation change), etc.
The "Open frame in new..." options are more complicated, because you can't
use the same Document since it has to remain in the old presentation as
well at the same time. But a solution like cloning the DOM would be a
start, possibly, for cases where the original source can't be obtained
(e.g. a POST result); for cases where the original data can still be
obtained (as is the case for anything where "view source" works), the page
can maybe be reconstructed from source.
In any case, the URL isn't the issue here. Reopening the page from its URL
isn't a correct implementation of these features.
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