<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Mar 10, 2007, at 9:40 PM, Matthew Ratzloff wrote:</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I don't care about DTD, but DOCTYPE is established, so it seems strange to</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">trash it in favor of something new when the benefit is questionable (as</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">far as I can tell).</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I don't think anyone wants to trash the DOCTYPE in light of the current landscape.� The problem is that the IE team wants ANOTHER switch to turn on Super-Standards Mode.��</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If DTD is out, bring back the deprecated "version" attribute that it</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">replaced.� Assuming there is only one version of HTML 5.0, the following</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">would work:</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><html version="5.0" mode="strict" encoding="UTF-8" lang="en-US"></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">...</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "></html></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR style=""></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">All attributes optional, obviously.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>That's a great idea.� That solves not only the versioning system, but could solve the IE Super-Standards Mode switch (though I don't think the "mode" attribute needs to be there... no one wants to specifically render in quirksmode, I'd think).� Again, my worry is that W3C doesn't implement it.� My header idea would go above W3C's and WHATWG's heads.� That means that it doesn't have to be in any published spec (and it shouldn't be, IMO).� It's just something to tell IE how to treat the content (the same way we tell browsers to render as XML, charsets, caching, etc).� There is really no reason it needs to be in any specification.� However, if we can solve the missing versioning problem, it could be dual purpose (assuming W3C implements it in their recommendation).�</DIV></DIV><BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV>----------------------------------------------------------</DIV><DIV>Robert <<A href="http://robertdot.org">http://robertdot.org</A>></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>