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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It makes sense to exempt
metadata from its own influence and putting it somewhere else is the easy way
to do it. Creating exemption rules is the hard way. However, if you are able
to produce a complete and tractable set of rules, I shall be able to live with
it. I am unable to imagine it, but that is just my lack of domain knowledge.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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whatwg-bounces@lists.whatwg.org [mailto:whatwg-bounces@lists.whatwg.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Tab Atkins Jr.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 28, 2008
9:18 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Kristof Zelechovski<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Ben Adida;
whatwg@lists.whatwg.org; Eduard Pascual; Shannon<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [whatwg] Ghosts from
the past and the semantic Web</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Kristof Zelechovski <<a
href="mailto:giecrilj@stegny.2a.pl">giecrilj@stegny.2a.pl</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I am not opposing local metadata; I have already explained you can use
the<br>
SCRIPT element for the purpose. I only say that metadata should not be<br>
inside content they describe in order to avoid circularity. This is a<br>
philosophical objection, not a technical one.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><br>
Honestly, Kristof, I think it's simple to assume that the metadata semantics is
in a different 'stream' that the main document, and thus you don't have
recursive metadata about metadata.<br>
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Imagine for a moment that CSS had an XML syntax (::shudder::). We
wouldn't assume that the styling information applies to stuff within the
<css> element, even if a selector *would* naively match an element
there. Styling information doesn't style itself by useful definition, and
metadata doesn't impart semantics to itself. Any occurence of accidental
self-reference is assumed to be just that - an accident - and discarded as
spurious.<br>
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In a real-world example, no existing parser that recognizes @rel=license
assumes that you are licensing the actual text/picture within the
license. It's assumed to apply to everything in the document *except* for
the license data itself.<br>
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~TJ<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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