<p>* I didn't say "5 years from Rec status"<br>
* Acid3 was meant to be an illustrative example of a case where the test itself was not intentionally introducing new behavior or attempting to force consensus on unwilling vendors, not a perfect analogy to something</p>
<p>PK</p>
<p><blockquote type="cite">On Jun 30, 2009 12:36 PM, "Sam Kuper" <<a href="mailto:sam.kuper@uclmail.net">sam.kuper@uclmail.net</a>> wrote:<br><br>2009/6/30 Peter Kasting <<a href="mailto:pkasting@google.com">pkasting@google.com</a>><br>
<p><font color="#500050">> On Jun 30, 2009 2:17 AM, "Sam Kuper" <<a href="mailto:sam.kuper@uclmail.net">sam.kuper@uclmail.net</a>> wrote:
> > > 2009/6/30 Silvia Pfeiffe...</font></p>> As a contributor to multiple browsers, I think it's important to note the distinctions between cases like Acid3 (where IIRC all tests were supposed to test specs that had been published with no dispute for 5 years), much of HTML5 (where items not yet implemented generally have agreement-on-principle from various vendors) and this issue, where vendors have publicly refused to implement particular cases. [...]<br>
<br>
I'd question, based on the following statements, whether your memory<br>
of Acid3 is correct:<br>
<br>
"Controversially, [Acid3] includes several elements from the CSS2<br>
recommendation that were later removed in CSS2.1 but reintroduced in<br>
W3C CSS3 working drafts that have not made it to candidate<br>
recommendations yet."[1]<br>
<br>
"The following standards are tested by Acid3: [...]<br>
* SMIL 2.1 (subtests 75-76) [...]"[1]<br>
<br>
SMIL 2.1 became a W3C Recommendation in December 2005.[2]<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronized_Multimedia_Integration_Language#SMIL_2.1" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronized_Multimedia_Integration_Language#SMIL_2.1</a><br>
<br>
So, there is some precedent for the W3C to publish specs/tests,<br>
expecting browser vendors to catch up with them further down the line.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Sam<br>
</font></blockquote></p>