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<blockquote type="cite"><span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Oy,
from the fact that users find web page links useful, it does not follow<br>
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>that all identified
content ought to be so linked.<!----><br>
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>It suggests that not linking is a serious drawback.<br>
<br>
It suggests no such thing. Your "suggestion", applied to surgery, would
be that <i>primum non nocere</i> implies surgery should never remove
hurt or remove useful tissue. The inference is overinclusive, to put it
mildly. W3C's job is to enable, not function like a commissariat. <br>
<blockquote type="cite"><span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>A
design goal of this use case is to isolate individual framed items from<br>
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>URL
back/forward/history.external linking. Analagous to watching a picture<br>
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>show where selecting N
pictures does not commit you to hitting the Back<br>
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>button N times to get
back out.<!----><br>
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>Why shouldn't it? <br>
<br>
Because the use case demands otherwise. <br>
<br>
> It's how all other links work. Behavior should be consistent.<br>
<br>
<i>These are not external links.</i> You want these pages to make each
item externally linkable. <i>The client does not</i>. The client wins
this debate hands down.<br>
<blockquote type="cite"><span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>More
significantly, each item may have its own permission setting.<br>
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<!---->>Why are frames useful for that? You can just display a
permissions<br>
>error if the user is unauthorized.<br>
<br>
The use case specifies otherwise. <br>
<blockquote type="cite"><span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>This
use case needs to isolate items within the page from<br>
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>back/forward/history and
external links.<!----><br>
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>Why? That seems to detract from the utility here, not add to it.<br>
<br>
Already explained. So that a user may enter and exit the frameset as
one page<br>
<br>
PB<br>
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Aryeh Gregor wrote:
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cite="mid:7c2a12e20910091016i348ffc93h62dab32cb1d53b2f@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Peter Brawley
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pb@artfulsoftware.com"><pb@artfulsoftware.com></a> wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Oy, from the fact that users find web page
links useful, it does not follow<br>
that all identified content ought to be so linked.<br>
</blockquote>
<!----><br>
It suggests that not linking is a serious drawback.<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">A design goal of this use case is to isolate
individual framed items from<br>
URL back/forward/history.external linking. Analagous to watching a
picture<br>
show where selecting N pictures does not commit you to hitting the Back<br>
button N times to get back out.<br>
</blockquote>
<!----><br>
Why shouldn't it? It's how all other links work. Behavior should be<br>
consistent.<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">More significantly, each item may have its<br>
own permission setting.<br>
</blockquote>
<!----><br>
Why are frames useful for that? You can just display a permissions<br>
error if the user is unauthorized.<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">This use case needs to isolate items within
the page from<br>
back/forward/history and external links.<br>
</blockquote>
<!----><br>
Why? That seems to detract from the utility here, not add to it.<br>
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