On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Philip Jägenstedt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:philipj@opera.com">philipj@opera.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Oh, so the idea is that the earlier data might actually be seekable, it's just that the UA seeks to an offset, much like with media fragments? The exception might be live streaming, where the duration is +Inf anyway.</blockquote>
<div><br>Yes.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">I don't think the current spec allows you to seek to before the "earliest possible position", pretty much by definition.<br>
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These are the cases I know of where an offset of some kind may be relevant:<br>
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* live streaming.<br>
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* server-applied media fragments where the offset of the fragment is given in a header of the resource.<br>
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For live streaming, I'm not sure the current spec has a problem, if browsers would implement the startTime property.</blockquote><div><br>But you just said you want to get rid of startTime "regardless of anything else"!<br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">For resources which themself claim an offset, I think we should let them start at 0 anyway and let people who really want a weird timeline fix it themselves.</blockquote>
<br clear="all"></div>That means they basically won't work with most players, which won't be expecting to deal with negative seekable times or the "weird timeline".<br><br>Rob<br>-- <br>"He was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all." [Isaiah 53:5-6]<br>