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On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 22:13 +0100, Shane Fagan wrote:
On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 16:07 -0500, Mike Wilcox wrote:
> >>On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, balachandar muruganantham wrote:>
> >> I have heard from people that there have been a discussion on
> >> the fullscreen mode for HTML5 video element. can anyone share the
> >> information on the conclusion we arrived at? i searched in the archive
> >> but i could not come to any conclusion.
> >On March 25th, Ian Hickson then said:
> >The conclusion was that it is a presentational issue and therefore should
> >be handled in one of the CSSOM specs. Unfortunately we don't have anyone
> >who has the bandwidth to edit a spec to specify how to make things go
> >full-screen. WebKit is experimenting with some APIs in this space, I
> I hope it's not minded if I weigh in on this topic as I feel strongly
> about it.
> It's very important that the HTML5 spec address developers' needs
> without crippling their abilities due to unfounded or incorrect
> security implementations. This is the problem we've been dealing with
> in regard to the file input uploaders for years, trying to simply
> apply a little CSS style to them.
> Adobe has blocked inappropriate use of fullscreen by tying that
> functionality to the click of a button. It can't be done onload or
> programmatically, it requires a user's interaction. The HTML5 spec can
> provide the same thing for fullscreen video. It's no different than
> the security used for HTML file inputs – you can't open a a File
> Browse Dialog, the user must click a button.
> I sincerely hope developers' needs aren't made secondary in such
> debates. While I appreciate proper browser security, in some cases it
> forces us to just look for workarounds to circumvent the security. The
> lack of fullscreen is a serious issue for us as we deal with clients
> and superiors who ask us to replace the Flash video player with an
> HTML5 video player... only to have us go back to them and say "Here is
> the cool player with custom controls... sorry, you can't do fullscreen
> though, it's not allowed". The obvious response to this is "Flash
> can, why can't HTML5?" and "well, let's just use Flash then."
Couldnt we have a property in the video tag that allows full screen?
That would solve what you are saying I think.
Not really. The argument is about abuse of a fullscreen mode. An attribute in the <video> tag would mean it would start in fullscreen mode, which would be the easiest way to abuse it.<BR>
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