[html5] Usefulness of language annotations

jonathan chetwynd jay at peepo.com
Tue Aug 12 01:57:52 PDT 2014


I’ve always found sic useful when reading.

considering parallel texts or multilingual texts such as War and Peace or The Name of the Rose
I would of thought required the publisher's use of lang.

similarly from an email of today: The area is called Smichov (=”place where people laugh”)
easily understood by the recipient, but perhaps not a machine?

i.e. where proper name is not translated, as is normal indicator is helpful.

a photographer of dance refused to provide alt content, and I feel he was right.
his site showed flowing sequences, and the alt content would need to be a creative act.
one that is currently rare to non-existent.

so no easy answers, but on 2 we disagree at least in matters of creativity

as perhaps an extreme case freedom fries has a particular meaning,
but an annotation helps maintain that idiom over time, which may otherwise be lost.


Jonathan Chetwynd

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On 11 Aug 2014, at 18:09, Jens O. Meiert <jens at meiert.com> wrote:

> I like to break into an old topic for which I believe the wrong ideas
> float around, but against which I’m not yet ready to push on other
> channels.
> Hence I want to fish for arguments here: How useful are language
> annotations via @lang?
> In particular:
> 1) Do user agents, including assistive technology, use this
> information in a way that is *actually* relevant and meaningful to the
> user?
> 2) Isn’t, or shouldn’t, language determination primarily be made a
> user agent, and not a developer responsibility?
> 3) Does it matter at all?
> I’m presenting this here (and perhaps on one or two more lists) to
> fish for arguments I may be missing. I’ve set my mind on this a while
> back [1]—and would answer 1) not usefully implemented, 2) tool
> responsibility, 3) probably not—but wonder if there is something that
> strongly disputes my view.
> Otherwise we can maybe clear up a mythical argument and requirement
> that developers need to mark up languages.
> Cheers,
> Jens.
> [1] https://plus.google.com/+JensOMeiert/posts/PfasbPRMuX8
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