mattraymond at earthlink.net
Tue Jul 20 09:09:36 PDT 2004
Jim Ley wrote:
>>>No, but we're excluding a solution because it cannot be done in HTC's
>> Actually, I've tested <object> in IE, and the <object> element in my
>>test didn't show up in the DOM using straight JScript, so I fail to see
>>what HTC even has to do with it.
> you can provide the enhancement in other ways, such as inline script
> within the OBJECT element.
Wouldn't such an inline script require <script>? That would mean for
every <object> element, you'd require the web author to remember to put
in a <script> element.
> This isn't possible with HTC's, I've
> already demonstrated an appropraite markup to allow for HTC support
No, I don't think you did. All I saw was the contents of an <object>
element wrapped in a <div>, with no explanation of what it was supposed
to do. I presume you want a script to look for that <div> and implement
behaviors accordingly, but that still doesn't give you the |form|
attribute and other WF2 control-related attributes from the <object>.
>>>- that's my problem, even though HTC's are sub-optimal for the
>>>majority of situations (look at the two proposed examples, neither use
>> Proposed examples?
Of course. We haven't written the HTC yet, and may I point out that
something for non-WF2 clients to gracefully degrade to. WF2 doesn't
>> I'll defer to Dean on this one, as he is the expert.
> He is _an_ expert, you know what, there are other people who have
> experience in HTC's in the world you know.
Thank you for demonstrating just how little you often bring to the
conversations on this mailing list. I should not have to defend every
trivial choice of an article (a, the, et cetera).
> This appears to be a comparison between object and datalist, rather
> than a general discussion on Object.
Clearly, if <object> is not better than <datalist>, it should not be
used in its place. If <object> is an inferior solution, it doesn't
matter how you'd implement it in IE.
>>>(so you'd need the DIV for the HTC solution, whereas the inline script
>>>wouldn't need the extra element)
> no time I'm afraid, I feel there's more than enough there for anyone
> to create an example.
I'm not going to argue your points for you, especially when I don't
understand what they are. Furthermore, if this code takes up so much of
your precious time, why do you expect us to have time to do it for you?
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