[whatwg] [html5] thoughts

[Jim Ley]

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 01:34:28 +0000 (UTC), Ian Hickson <ian at hixie.ch> wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2004, Jim Ley wrote:
>> Equally, there's no problem at all achieving what you want by having 2
>> extra em elements surrounding the quotes themselves.  (the size
>> presumably emphasising the quote mark, or perhaps a span if you don't
>> agree that it's emphasis)
> 
> As I said earlier in the thread, I'd rather drop the entire <q> element
> than introduce that kind of verbosity. I disagree that there is no problem
> here. I think it is quite horrible.

It's semantically clean, backwards degradeable, and imposes no burden
on implementators, I'm not sure what's horrible about it.  Your use
case is a very rare one, it's not something I've seen on the web more
than about once - it may be because of the difficulty in doing it but
2 extra elements is rather simple, so I can't believe this.

> Just because it is content doesn't mean it has to have an element.

No of course not, but introducing CSS such as :whatwg-leading-quote
and :whatwg-trailing-quote seems like the overly specialised sort of
approach that leads to huge bloated unimplementable specs such as CSS
2.

Jim.