[whatwg] <h1> to <h6> in <body>

Sat Apr 2 02:52:42 PST 2005

On Sat, 2 Apr 2005, Matthew Thomas wrote:
> >
> > [titles should include more context than h1s]
> 
> This requires that the site be small enough for humans to bother 
> assembling the <title> in every page (rather than it being assembled by 
> a CMS that doesn't know whether to use "to" or "used during" or "in" or 
> whatever else), *and* that the author's carefulness and boredom 
> thresholds are such that they will adapt the necessary context in the 
> <title> for every page. That's highly implausible.

Actually it happens all the time. Certainly it is as plausible as the fact 
that authors are going to be writing, say, valid markup.

> I'd like search engines to be able to show me the title of a page in the 
> same consistent position in a search result, and the name of the site 
> (if available) in the same consistent position in a search result, and 
> the name of the author (if available) in the same consistent position in 
> a search result.
> 
> For that to happen, it would help slightly if the HTML specification 
> stopped SHOULD-ing the current <title> behavior. It would help more if 
> the HTML specification contained clear, straightforward markup for 
> author and site name (and encouraged UAs to present this information 
> when the document is taken out of context).

There are several options here, some of the easiest would be:

   <title site="" publisher="" author="">Page Title</title>
   <title>Page Title - <site></site> - <author></author> (<publisher></publisher>)</title>

...or if people want to also provide links:

   <title>Page Title</title>
   <link rel="top" title="" href="">
   <link rel="publisher" title="" href="">
   <link rel="author" title="" href="">

I've noted your request and these options.

Am I right in assuming that this request does not affect the headers 
discussion?

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