[whatwg] Footnotes, endnotes, sidenotes
David Walbert
dwalbert at learnnc.org
Tue Oct 31 07:20:02 PST 2006
On Oct 31, 2006, at 9:30 AM, James Graham wrote:
> I think and distinction between footnotes, sidenotes and endnotes
> is basically presentational and whilst we should try to ensure that
> markup+CSS can create all three appearances we shouldn't treat them
> distinctly.
Footnotes and endnotes are identical in content in the context of a
print document and I am not certain how they'd differ even
presentationally on a web page, so yes, I think those can be
considered identical in terms of markup.
"Sidenotes," though, is ambiguous. If the term refers to footnotes
that happen to be placed beside the text, then yes, they're identical
semantically to footnotes. But "sidenotes" may also refer to "pull
quotes" or "callouts" -- some small piece of text to be highlighted
rather than additional explanatory information of the sort that would
appear in a sidebar or footnote. Or, if "sidenote" refers to what is
usually called a "sidebar," then we're talking about something that
is both more extensive than the typical footnote and of greater
importance relative to the main text -- its position on the side of
the page is rather than at the bottom is not merely presentational
but is indicative of the weight of the content. Moreover, a callout
or sidebar is not a numbered or marked reference and need not be
referred from a precise location within the text -- whereas a
footnote or endnote relates to a specific word, sentence, or
paragraph, a sidebar/callout/pullquote relates more vaguely to a more
general section of text, or in the case of some sidebars, to the full
article.
So while markup for footnotes/endnotes could be standardized fairly
easily (in as much as writing standards is ever easy), I don't even
know where I would begin to define sidenotes semantically. As I've
used them in print and on the web, they'd need to relate to (1) a
header, and therefore to the section of text underneath it; or (2) a
paragraph, list, or other defined block of text. But a sidebar might
need to contain block-level formatting (and even multiple paragraphs
and potentially headers), which means it couldn't be placed inside
one of those elements.
I don't know how many people would actually use magazine-style
sidebars and callouts on the web -- I would, and probably a lot of
newspaper and magazine publishers would, if there were a convenient
way to do it. (I already do use pullquotes, but with some complicated
markup to make them, I hope, accessible and semantically meaningful.)
On the other hand lots of web authors do and would use footnotes/
endnotes. So I am not sure how much effort it would be worth putting
into markup for sidebars/callouts.
____
David Walbert
LEARN NC
dwalbert at learnnc.org
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