[whatwg] time and meter elements
ian at hixie.ch
Tue Dec 11 02:03:17 PST 2007
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007, David Latapie wrote:
> I have some trouble inderstanding the need for these elements really.
> Especially when considering the example:
> <p>Our first date was <time datetime="2006-09-23">a saturday</time>.</p>
> Out of sorting all the events that happened that day, it really seems
> weird to me.
Yeah, the example isn't compelling. But there has been a lot of demand for
a <time> element, most notoriously from the microformats community who are
current abusing <abbr> in lieu of having <time>.
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Matthew Raymond wrote:
> A <name> element may have some uses, such as providing a hook for adding
> people to your contact list:
> | <address>
> | <name>John Hopkins</name><br>
> | Phone: (359) 555-1701
> | </address>
Notwithstanding what I consider misuse of <br> in that example, I would
encourage people to use hCard to mark up a name instead of us introducing
an element for the purpose.
> One rationale is localization. The browser can take the time given by
> the |datetime| attribute and convert it into a localized time. For
> instance, what does this mean?...
> | <p>We're changing the day of the meeting to 08-03-07.</p>
> Is the date August 3rd, 2007, March 8th, 2007 or March 7th, 2008?
> Now, look at this:
> | <p>
> | We're changing the day of the Inkwells meeting to
> | <time datetime="2007-08-03">08-03-07</time>.
> | </p>
> The user agent can replace the contents of <time> with the localized
> value of |datetime|, with the added plus of having a hook for styling.
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007, Matthew Raymond wrote:
> > I see where you are going. So, a <name> element would make sense
> > (contact management) and maybe also a <priority> element and location,
> > no?
> Yes, although I'm not sure a microformat wouldn't be just as good. The
> difference with the <time> element is that it can contain the minimal
> amount of information for an event in a calendar:
> | <time datetime="[event time]" title="[event name]">fallback</time>
> That plus the ability to localize times and dates, in my opinion, give
> the element critical mass.
Right. There are ways of including names without abusing semantics today
(<span>, for one), but there really was no way to unambigiously include a
date or time before <time>.
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