[whatwg] <details> members

Ian Hickson ian at hixie.ch
Fri Aug 22 00:06:26 PDT 2008

On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 08:40:08 +0200, Ian Hickson <ian at hixie.ch> wrote:
> > I don't know. Currently, the only elements that use defaultFoo are 
> > <option> with defaultSelected, <input> with defaultValue and 
> > defaultChecked, and <textarea> and <output> with defaultValue. Given 
> > that only the first three map to attributes (the last two map to 
> > textContent), and that in all five cases the "default"ness is directly 
> > related to the fact that they can be reset using .reset() and reset 
> > buttons, I'm not convinced that there really is a strong precedent 
> > here. The <details> element's "open" attribute is quite a different 
> > beast, IMHO. Could you elaborate on how this could be confusing? I'm 
> > not sure I really understand why authors would have problems with 
> > this.
> It's mostly that it makes sense to me to have the initial state 
> available somehow without having to keep track of it as an author. I 
> can't really think of any use cases at the moment though.

The only parts of the platform that remember their "initial" state that I 
can think of are those that can be reset using <input type=reset>, so I'm 
going to leave this one unaddressed. If there are particular use cases 
that come up, please let me know.

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