[whatwg] public-html list
ian at hixie.ch
Thu Jan 10 18:37:51 PST 2008
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007, Shannon wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok so I found the other list (public-html at w3c.org). Nokia state
> > > their reasons and clearly it was discussed (at Cambridge apparently)
> > > but why two lists for one standard?
> > Historical reasons -- the W3C initially wasn't interested in doing
> > HTML5, so we started in the WHATWG (back in 2004), but earlier this
> > year the W3C decided to also work on HTML5 and adopted the WHATWG
> > spec, and now the two groups work together on the same spec.
> I imagine this must generate a lot of cross-posting and confusion.
Very little, actually.
> Are there plans to merge the groups?
Not especially. There are people who for a number of reasons are unable to
join the W3C group, and there are others who are unable to join the WHATWG
group. As editor in both groups I take all input into account anyway --
and there are far more places where input on HTML5 is sent than just these
two mailing lists (e.g. blogs, www-html at w3.org, forums, direct mail,
> Which group has authority in the event of a dispute or is that unknown?
I don't really understand what kind of dispute would happen. I take
feedback from everyone when editing the spec, and there is only one actual
spec that I edit. I don't look at where the feedback is coming from when
dealing with technical arguments.
> My spider-senses tell me we're going to end up with 2 HTML5's.
Well, I'm editing both specs, and I can guarentee that as long as I edit
both, that they will either remain identical, or that the WHATWG one will
be a superset of the W3C one. In practice this hasn't been a problem so
far. (In practice, also, even if we did somehow merge the two groups, if
the resulting group started doing ridiculous stuff without responding to
feedback, then a new group would likely end up being formed to take up the
job. That's pretty much how all the WHATWG started back in 2004.)
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