[whatwg] Placeholder option for text input boxes
Tab Atkins Jr.
jackalmage at gmail.com
Fri Oct 3 10:24:03 PDT 2008
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Garrett Smith <dhtmlkitchen at gmail.com>wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage at gmail.com>
> > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Garrett Smith <dhtmlkitchen at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Brenton Strine
> >> > <Brenton.Strine at citrix.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Andy Lyttle <whatwg at phroggy.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> > iota. This leans me even more toward a CSS solution. I'll just bite
> >> > the
> >> > bullet and bring it up to the CSS WG.
> >> >
> >> Are you proposing that placeholder could be a positioned object, such
> >> as an image?
> > Not entirely sure what you're suggesting here, but maybe?
> I feel the same way about what you wrote. (?)
Then I'll expand. I guess you're late to the thread? Not that it's a
problem, I just assumed that you'd seen the mail I sent earlier.
> > My suggestion was
> > put forward up above - I would prefer if the placeholder text was
> > content. You set a CSS rule (haven't decided the best way to handle this
> > yet) that suppresses the display of a label and instead uses the textual
> > content of the label as a placeholder.
> A <label> element?
Yes. My idea is based on the fact that on every current use of
placeholder-like functionality I've ever seen, the placeholder text was
semantically a label, and was in fact used in place of a label. The
majority of suggestions put forth in this thread have the same property -
the text that they're packing into @placeholder is semantically a <label>,
and should actually be put there - it's merely a desire to change the
display of the label that moves them to put it into @placeholder.
Thus, this seems rather straightforwardly a CSS issue. You code up an
ordinary, semantic form with <label> and such, then some CSS rule takes over
and suppresses the appearance of the <label>, but displays the textual
content of the <label> within the <input> (or <textarea>).
Some searching finally let me find the article where I found this technique
first saw, but he appears to have taken down his blog. However, A List
Apart Issue #229 covered it as well, and they still have a working page.
 My idea is that this should be doable through CSS rather than only
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