[whatwg] validationMessage

Jonas Sicking jonas at sicking.cc
Thu Feb 11 23:01:04 PST 2010

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Peter Kasting <pkasting at google.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Ian Hickson <ian at hixie.ch> wrote:
>> The relevant use cases that led to this design are:
>> 1. Getting validation of forms without scripting, with the UA doing all
>>   the UI work.
>> 2. Getting validation of forms with the UI designed by the author, but
>>   with the actual validation work (including working out what the
>>   messages should be) done by the UA.
>> 3. Getting validation of forms with the UI completely done by the author,
>>   including deciding what the messages should be.
> I am explicitly opposed to the UA showing validation messages to the user.
>  I do not think HTML5 should attempt to address use cases where the author
> wants the UA to show the messages.  I think the design should provide the
> author with return values that indicate what the results of validation were
> and the author should provide the rest of the UI.  In other words, I am
> opposed to trying to solve use cases #1 and #2 above.  Any design that
> attempts to solve them is a mistake.  Please remove validationMessage from
> the spec.

Would be great if you could provide a reason why you feel this way.

/ Jonas

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