[whatwg] 'Main Part of the Content' Idiom
Ashley Sheridan
ash at ashleysheridan.co.uk
Fri Jun 4 08:10:21 PDT 2010
On Fri, 2010-06-04 at 17:05 +0200, Daniel Persson wrote:
> If i view the html-web as it is now, inside <body> there are so much
> irrelevant content (where else to put it?). In order for <body> to be
> the main content, there has to be tags for everything else. This will
> be very hard for authors to implement (I am talking real world,
> amateur, do-it-yourself, stressed professionals). It is IMHO very
> beautiful code-wise, and organisationally, to state that everything in
> <body> is main content, but it will not benefit a structurally
> marked-up web.
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>
> Thanks
> /Daniel
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Ashley Sheridan
> <ash at ashleysheridan.co.uk> wrote:
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> On Fri, 2010-06-04 at 16:27 +0200, Daniel Persson wrote:
>
> > I am the one posting the question on the help list. To me,
> > the lack of html5 definition of main content, ie body copy
> > in paper publishing, is a big mistake. Imagine the amount of
> > sites where "everything else" includes a lot of unimportant
> > extra, or peripheral, content. Content which is not
> > necessarily hierarchically legible by a machine. Getting
> > authors to be disciplined about defining main content is
> > more important than being disciplined about <nav>, <footer>,
> > <header>, <section> etc, in order not to negate the meaning
> > of html5 structural mark-up.
> >
> >
> > Suggestion <bodycopy>... or, preferred, <bread>.
> >
> >
> > /Daniel
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Smylers
> > <Smylers at stripey.com> wrote:
> >
> > The HTML5 spec should define how to mark up the main
> > content on a page
> > (even if the answer is "by omission"). This is
> > something that many
> > authors ask about, the latest example being today's
> > thread on the help
> > mailing list:
> > http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/help-whatwg.org/2010-June/000561.html
> >
> > Please could this be added to the 'idioms' section,
> > perhaps giving
> > examples of when <article> or <section> might be
> > appropriate as well as
> > one in which the main content is simply that which
> > isn't in <header>,
> > <aside>, etc.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Smylers
> > --
> > http://twitter.com/Smylers2
> >
> >
> >
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> It's my understanding that everything within the <body> tag is
> considered body content, and the new <header> and <footer>
> tags, etc, are just there to give more meaning about the type
> of body content.
>
> Thanks,
> Ash
> http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
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The fact that there is so much irrelevant content inside the <body> tag
is because some people consider that body content. Do you have a more
specific example of this?
Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
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