[whatwg] Submitting contentEditable Content In A Form -- also in SVG and audio contexts

David Dailey ddailey at zoominternet.net
Wed Oct 17 18:41:30 PDT 2012

No I had nothing at all in mind that might be inconsistent with what is
being discussed -- just sort of a free association I suppose.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Hickson [mailto:ian at hixie.ch] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:27 PM
To: David Dailey
Cc: 'whatwg'; ayg at aryeh.name
Subject: RE: [whatwg] Submitting contentEditable Content In A Form -- also
in SVG and audio contexts

On Wed, 17 Oct 2012, David Dailey wrote:
> I don't know if this matters or not, but at some point in time, other 
> standards than HTML like <svg> or <audio> might receive sensible 
> proposals to allow other media (than just text) to be contentEditable.
> Just as it makes sense to have built in text editors (imagine the 
> spectrum ranging from <textarea> to rich web content editors like in
> Google+ and beyond) in a spec that deals with text (as in HyperText ML
> handling such routine things as word-wrap, backspace, delete, select, 
> copy, paste etc.), so might it make sense to have a default
> (cross-browser-consistent) generic drawing pad that produces 
> structured graphical objects (and not just silly pixelbits) built into 
> a graphical element or a default (cross-browser-consistent) sound 
> studio built into audio objects. The GUI interfaces for these things 
> have been pretty consistent since MacDraw in 1984 and SoundEdit in 
> 1986 so any patents with the oft-replicated interface would have expired
by now.
> I'm not saying that coherent proposals that meet the acceptance of the 
> standards community for such will emerge in the next few years, but at 
> some time, the logic for them is likely to eventually overcome the 
> resistance. And, in the meantime, it might make sense to make sure 
> that what is done with the stuff in HTML is consistent with the 
> broader spectrum of possible use cases that will emerge in the future.

That seems reasonable in general. Did you have anything specific in mind
that isn't consistent in this way?

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