[whatwg] HTML 5, OGG, competition, civil rights, and persons with disabilities
singer at apple.com
Tue Dec 11 16:11:18 PST 2007
At 19:04 -0500 11/12/07, Jeff McAdams wrote:
>Dave Singer wrote:
>> At 13:45 -0500 11/12/07, Fernando wrote:
>>> Please reconsider the decision to exclude the recommendation of the
>> Theora/OGG Vorbis codec in HTML 5 guidelines.
>> This entire discussion is founded on a major misapprehension: that
>> there has been a decision, and that decision was to exclude. This is
>> simply not true; there is no decision either to include or exclude.
>> There is a recognition that work is needed.
>> I and others have spent a great deal of time on this problem already,
>> working with a number of people, including the W3C staff. Many of us --
>> maybe all of us -- agree we need to find a solution that enables broad
>> interoperability and is in accord with w3c and web practices. We have
>> not yet reached consensus on having found it. That's all.
>A decision was made to move away from using the ogg family of
A decision was made to have the text reflect the facts that (a)
no-one is happy with a 'should' and (b) that work is ongoing to find
a solution (which might be Ogg, or something else). That's all.
>While not a final decision, it is a threatening decision
>to those of us that value freedom and openness and don't appreciate
>being screwed by big companies.
>Listen to what the people are saying.
Oh, I am listening. It's by no means clear that the Ogg crowd is at
all. I'm also spending efforts working on finding a solution. I
don't count lamenting "I want my ogg" on this list as spending
efforts at all.
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