[whatwg] Installed Apps

Maciej Stachowiak mjs at apple.com
Tue Jul 28 01:38:33 PDT 2009

On Jul 27, 2009, at 10:51 PM, David Levin wrote:

> It sounds like most of the concerns are about the 2nd part of this  
> proposal: allowing a background page to continue running after the  
> visible page has been closed.
> However, the first part sounds like it alone would be useful to web  
> applications like GMail:
> The first, which should begenerally useful, is the ability to have a  
> hidden HTML/JS page running
> in the background that can access the DOM of visible windows. This
> page should be accessible from windows that the user navigates to. We
> call this background Javascript window a "shared context" or a
> "background page". This will enable multiple instances of a web app
> (e.g. tearoff windows in Gmail) to cleanly access the same user state
> no matter which windows are open.
> + restrict things to the same security origin.
> It sounds similar in concept to a share worker except that it runs  
> in the main thread and is more concerned with dom manipulation/state  
> while workers have typically been thought of as allowing background  
> processing.
> It seems that the lifetime of this could be scoped, so that it dies  
> when it isn't referenced (in a similar way to how shared worker  
> lifetime is scoped).

This idea actually sounds reasonably ok, and I think I once proposed  
something like this as an alternative to shared workers as the way for  
multiple app instances to share state and computation.

It's really the bit about invisibly continuing to run once all related  
web pages are closed that I would worry about the security issues.


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